Why do Titans need pilots??

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  1. neongree

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    Hey, complete noob here.

    I haven;t decided whether to purchase the game or not as the beta did not blow me away. Instead I've read about the TF2 story and think it sounds quite interesting.

    One point in particular got me thinking.

    Why does BT need Jack?

    Why do titans require pilots at all?

    If they can guard / defend / host some form of semi-/sentient AI, what's the point?

    This isn't a wind up or attempt to troll, I just have no idea what the premise is, why this relationship is important to the game / story etc. In comparison, in WH40K, Dreadnaughts are considered 'haunted' by the memories of their past pilots. But they can't get up and dance without one.

    Thanks.
     
  2. A4eaTransformer

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    It may be less about the story and totally about the game. It is a blow away unique feature that makes the game unique and awesome.
     
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  3. neongree

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    Yeah I understand. However, I have very limited gaming time these days, so enjoy spending that with immersive worlds. I enjoy getting involved with a story like I do a good show or book. TF2 seems quite invested in this relationship between Jack and BT, but I don't get it. Why does BT need Jack to survive? Seems like a glaring plot hole.

    I'm not expecting something on par with The Last of Us, but just wish to know what the deal is.
     
  4. KernelClamjuice

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    #4 KernelClamjuice, Oct 26, 2016
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    As much as I enjoyed bagging on the tech test....

    It was nothing like what the game will be on launch day..

    If u like FPS games you should get it.....you would be doing yourself a disservice by not getting it.
     
  5. ThirdGuyver

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    Hi there!

    Aside from the fact the point of playing as/against pilots and titans adds the critical dimension to the game:

    In the story sense, the pilots are pretty badass with lightening reflexes, battle experience etc.. maybe titans are better utilised when controlled by a pilot..

    And in the case of tf2, the story itself (i believe) is focused on the bond between pilot and titan, making it more emotionally gripping/involving for the player.
     
  6. ThirdGuyver

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    So buy it, you know you want to....
     
  7. neongree

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    I'm really surprised that nobody can provide a clear answer. It just doesn't make any sense to me. Also can / why can't titans be controlled remotely?

    I appreciate my question may appear pedantic and pointless, and I guess it is. Still, it's bizarre that this absolutely fundamental aspect of the universe lore is unexplained.
     
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  8. Derrame

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    The human intelligence is far superior than the Titan's artificial intelligence in every way
     
  9. PT Platinum11

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    And if it was controlled remotely, the control could be lost via EMP or how it happened in Titanfall 1's campaign. The enemy takes over control of the said bots.
     
  10. DARK BAWGS

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    Maybe it is just the stage of the evolution of the technology; they haven't got to the point of creating a good enough interface to functional manage such a large complex piece of equipment. The Specters can be viewed as prototypes of the future Titans and when we see TF3 it will move to a new level...

    Hell, it is only a game and part of the fun is getting in that Titan and kicking some...
     
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  11. rainman0211

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    There a alot of content (readable, vids) of Titanfall's humble beginnings. Too bad you hadn't the opportunity to play and become a fan of the game like the bunch that frequent this community. There is a lot to Titanfall and surely my words could not do justice trying to explain. To me this is truly one of those "should have been there" games.
     
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  12. Sgt_rawk

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    You're right on one thing. The question is pedantic and pointless. If the premise is that much of an issue for you I would say that this isn't the game for you. If you question every video game like this line of questioning I'm surprised you play anything at all...and please don't misunderstand the response, it is crafted with the greatest of respect for your original enquiry.:)
     
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    "POOOOOOP AND SCOOOOOOP!"
     
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  14. neongree

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    I'm sorry I butthurt you.

    What a strange bunch of responses, thanks all.
     
  15. PT Platinum11

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    Whoah whoah, he said he was interested in the game. Just poking out a potential plot hole and seeking an answer. Granted there isn't a right or completly logical answer (yet). But its the same with a lot of what we love, we gotta look at what is right, and what is wrong to either get an answer or help the creators not make a similiar mistake in the future. No hate here, lets keep this civilized.
     
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  16. Mic Blades

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    They probably followed the universal law of robotics AI, never give machines human AI. If they had, the machines would have evolved to become self aware, then humans would have gone bye bye. Titans are just machines of war with very basic AI, it can't compare to human intelligence. What if a Titan were given full control to make all decisions? What if a Titan decides it is logical to accomplish its' goal without regard for human casualties? What if a Titan has to chose to kill 3 human civilians vs killing 1, but by killing 3 100 are saved and by killing 1 103 are saved? A machine doesn't have emotions, it cannot make tough ethical decisions. A human pilot would say, I won't kill any, I'll get the enemy titan to follow me away from all the civilians, even if it ends up getting me killed. A human pilot can weigh all the options, they can also say screw protocols if it's for the greater good of humanity. And, when a human makes a mistake, they can be held accountable for war crimes, a titan cannot.

    Of course, don't expect such an in depth logical explanation from game writers, they're mostly just technical nerds who don't know how to tell a story well, thus a lot of plot holes.
     
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  17. rainman0211

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    Yeah... what he said.:rolleyes:
     
  18. Sgt_rawk

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    Not a troll huh?
     
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    :confused::confused::confused:I guess I should ask why do we even need pilots. In the future time of TF the pilots could be remotely controlled especially the SP users or just put on auto pilot. :cool:
     
  20. Mic Blades

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    Probably not since the tech to jam their long range transmissions exists in the game.