Angel City DLC - No you, don't need to panic

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  1. Mecha Maiden

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    Please remember this is just my opinion but holy crap we all need to take a breath, step back and really think about a few things....
    Since the Angel City DLC / update my Xbox feed has been full of people lashing out Respawn about making purchasable items in the game. Overall the Titanfall community is very loyal and passionate about the game and at times feel we have to stand up for what Respawn has created.

    With that said remember it is an investment for Respawn and EA - Gaming is a BUSINESS and must make money to succeed. Really take a look at the purchasable items in the game : Camos, Callsigns , Prime Titans (New look & execution) and Titan Art.

    Notice all of these are cosmetic. They will in no way change your game. Yes you may look awesome and have a new execution but you have no actual advantage.

    I believe that Respawn is really trying to achieve something amazing here - Finding the balance of supporting the players by not allowing pay to win but still allowing them to strive as a business by offering purchasable items for player to freshen up the game if THEY CHOOSE.

    Remember to enjoy what Repawn has created for us and support them!
     
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  2. Simply Select

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    I agree very much. I tend to think that most gamers forget that these people are trying to make a living. Seeing that Respawn has pledge to make all DLC free, having cosmetic in game purchases will help support this for the foreseeable future.
     
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  3. DARK BAWGS

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    I believe that is what I have been trying to express - it is a business and Respawn must make it financially viable before anything else or there just won't an anything - at all!

    Well said Mecha...
     
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  4. WhoIsDo

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    Respawn is giving us every map & mode for FREE. Since they're not charging for those, I'm MORE than happy to see them charge for cosmetic items that have nothing to do with skill or giving an unfair advantage. For anyone complaining, would you rather pay for $60 for all of the DLC or get it for free & have people make it up by buying cosmetic items?

    Don't like the cosmetic items? Cool, don't buy them & keep playing one of the best shooters we've had in the past few years.
     
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  5. Ik0n88x

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    This x1000!
     
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  6. Jimmah

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    Oh I don't know, one of the Camos definitely makes me play better!

    It's a generational thing I think. "OMG I have to pay for something, why isn't it free, gimme gimme." Give me everything I don't want to work for it, just give me everything NOW", sort of attitude.
     
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  7. Bruvas

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    Amen with a cherry on top. Self entitlement seems rife this generation. I speak with my wallet which would scream a thousand times louder if the masses would follow suit.
    Respawn were clear that this was always going to be the case, so I bought the game. In contrast, I really want the remaster of MW but refuse to buy IW to get it, therefore I don't have it. It's a similar story with the dlc for battlefield hardline, battlefield 1 and star wars - ain't bought it.
    The people who make these games do work hard on them then present their offering that you can either buy or leave. Moaning like a little bi**h is just childish imo. These are games, not life and death.
     
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    A-f-ing-men.....
     
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  9. Ik0n88x

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    this x1000!
     
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    X a bloody 1000
     
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  11. Villain

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    Eh, maybe they need to go play Destiny and come back. They charge for cosmetic additions AND dlc. Also, a lot of the cosmetics is random so you are actually paying for a CHANCE to get a cosmetic item.

    Yea, people need to get perspective.

    I'm grateful when games don't make people pay for dlc. This is a blessing.
     
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  12. rainman0211

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    Nice avatar.
     
  13. Sgt_rawk

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    Yes, good point, I'm often in awe of people who complain endlessly about in game purchases in Call of Duty whilst emptying their pockets in what is, in effect, a game of chance trying to get an OP gun variant. Don't like em don't buy em. Don't like playing in a game that allows such weapons to be purchased? Play something else.
     
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  14. ensc

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    #14 ensc, Dec 5, 2016
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    I generally agree. I don't care about camos in the first place, so I'm certainly not going to pay money for any. As most have said, if you don't like the stuff, then don't buy it.

    I would like to offer up a way for Respawn to make a lot of money though, perhaps even more than the price of the game. This is not a joke either, because I seriously would pay this and now that they have an in-game store, they could offer this.

    I think this would be a much more fair compromise than what was offered with the Boost. One of the biggest debates in TF1 was the smart pistol. Why? Those who complained felt it required no skill to use it. However, you would not have seen all of the perpetual whining about it if there were not a heck of a lot of people who really enjoyed using it. Therefore, I think it was probably a pretty balanced number of people who liked it and people who didn't. I personally feel like the people who really liked it got the short end of the stick on how it was dealt with in TF2 by basically reducing it to a Boost with limited rounds.

    Therefore, I have a proposal that would make Respawn a heck of a lot of money and I believe still be fair to both sides, but be a little more fair to the die hard smart pistol lovers who are willing to support Respawn and Titanfall in general by paying for it. I think they should offer the original smart pistol, exactly as in TF1 (not watered down, softened, dampened or modified in any way) in the in-game store for $100.

    If someone is willing to pay 166% of the standard game price just for one weapon that was in the original game, then I think they deserve to have it. Think about it. Not everyone who liked the smart pistol is going to be willing to do that, so you are not going to have as many as in the first game. And even if they really want it, not everyone is going to be able to afford it, so again, you are not going to have as many as in the first game. So, for the most part, those who hated the smart pistol are still going to get their way. However for those who really loved it and are willing to pony up for it, which will help Respawn and Titanfall in general to grow for the future, then I think they deserve to be able to use a gun that was in the first game. By the way, I would be first in line. I only used it on Attrition, because I felt it was the absolute best gun for that mode. By the way, allowing a limited number of them for those willing to pay for them would be one way of trying to offset the imbalance that is becoming more and more obvious as a result of encouraging FPS clans through Networks.

    Just to show that I am willing to be fair about this. The weapon I absolutely despised in TF1 was the Arc Cannon. Just hearing the sound of it made me angry. :) I actually referred to it as the Titan sp, because it almost never failed that those who whined about the sp were the same ones who loved the Arc Cannon when they were in their Titans. I would be fine with them offering the Arc Cannon for $100 in the in-game store as well. Even though I would hate seeing it (and especially hate hearing it), I would think to myself, "Hey, that person was willing to shell out $100 for that gun, so who am I to complain. They love using it and they are supporting a game I love and the company who makes it." Now of course to offer that one, we would have to bring customizable titan loadouts back, which would make me very happy as well.

    Heck, there's another idea. Allow people to buy the ability to fully customize your titan loadouts for $100. I would be first in line for that as well.

    Hey, just trying to make some more money for you here Respawn. :) I've got $200 sitting right here for you for the smart pistol and customizable titan loadouts. Just get em in the store and it's yours. With the game selling at $40 (a month after launch and only going to go lower), that is like me be willing to pay you for 5 more versions of the game for just 1 in-store item and 1 in-store ability. And they are things you don't even have to create, because they were things that were in the old game. Just put the smart pistol in the store. Leave the new titans as they are, but add the classic titans with fully customizable loadouts to the store. That way it saves you the trouble of having to make the new titans have customizable loadouts. The guy who loves the Arc Cannon can still get it buy paying $100 for the classic titans with fully customizable loadouts.

    I know one argument is going to be balance, but please spare me when injecting traditional FPS clans into this game is what has created the biggest balance problem right now and these things might actually help balance that out. Plus it will make some money for the company and the franchise to make things better in the future at the same time.
     
  15. MDVillarreal

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    I have no issue with them offering purely cosmetic items as the only paid DLC. I think those are also reasonably priced as well.
     
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  16. Villain

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    Well Sir...

    Thanks!
     
  17. PT Platinum11

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    Even if it comes down to a small number of purchases it still will get the headlines of "TITANFALL 2, PAY TO WIN?!!?" and since they have a good critic score that really is driving the sales, which is entirely necessary to compete with Battlefield 1 I doubt they would want to do anything to damage that which they have going for them. I think I remember your post about the arc cannon, I never used it but never had a problem with it, SP I got mad at times at it but really it didn't bug me too much. As well with the low health in TF2 I don't think we even need an SP. No matter what micro-transactions have a bad name to it but if its kept to cosmetics only then it won't be bad in terms marketing, and still earn the game devs money, just look at Overwatch and Destiny for example.
     
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  18. Villain

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    DO NOT look at Destiny.

    I'm a day one Destiny player and they have been going down the wrong road for a while. Granted they have SOME similar cosmetic microtransction but they also have this funky RNG stuff where people are spending $50 dollars to get a package that may have the cosmetic thing they are looking for.

    That paired with expensive dlc that makes your previous accomplishments obsolete, it's bad form in my opinion.

    Actually it's one of the many reasons I've moved to Titan fall
     
  19. PT Platinum11

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    I'm merely looking at the Eververse trade section, the whole MMO expansions that lock out other players in matchmaking event like strikes and the crucible is unacceptable. I think the games got this odd up and down spiral about it. The base game was nothing what was promised and TTK gave exactly what the game was supposed to be then with ROI it really was just a way to keep their community interested while they work on the sequel, its not bad but things like Festival of the Cost was definitely another bad step in a wrong direction. If I were to give another example I would have to say Counter Strike: Global Offensive giving players weapon skins for little bits of money. Granted it has caused huge gambling problems but I think that's more the fault of the users and not the game or gave developers. And on the $50 transaction it only boosts you're base level to that where you begin the real end-game stuff. Pretty much skips the story if people really want to do that. It doesn't give any advantage in PvP nor does it make the character raid ready.
     
  20. Villain

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    Yea, festival of the cost was one of the things I was referring to with the whole RNG cosmetic thing. I can understand offering that but to lock it behind a gamble...That's just ridiculous.

    Between those shenanigans and the next Iron Banner game mode being Rift I'm about done with Destiny. Thankfully Titan Fall came around when it did.