It's Just Boring

Discussion in 'General Titanfall discussion' started by unclefrank666, Feb 14, 2017.

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  1. DARK BAWGS

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    Good points "Atrain" and yes thanks to 3G for bringing out this issue. I know I am guilty of some redundancy and I apologize for that. In my opinion we have to look at "cause and effect".

    In the past TF1 had a (albeit small) loyal following and when TF2 came out the exceptions were high. Unfortunately it was not TF1(a) and the "raging" started slow at first but it has built over time as more joined the discussion.

    I loved TF1 but that is not at issue, what is the issue is that the game was not a commercial success and as the cliche says "...if you keep doing the same thing over and over and expect a different result that is the definition of insanity". Given the state of TF1 it made sense to make major changes and bring out a game that could appeal to more of the gaming community. I believe that the COD community is still pretty loyal to that franchise so they targeted players new to FPS or were playing other similar games. Result has been an outstanding game (look at all the industry accolades).

    This truly a different game and a very good game that I have loved playing, here I get redundant, but an unfinished game for all the reasons we have beat to death on this forum. My hope is that as things develop Respawn is listening and will build on this excellent foundation and make the game what it can be.

    Today i was on PS4 and there were only 4,000 plus players, now that sounds a lot like the numbers we used to see in TF1 and it does concern me. I only hope that if the numbers are reducing that players will comeback once the new changes are made, promises don't add players only positive action will and I for one am counting on Respawn to deliver and do so in a major way.

    Like Atrain said I will not bitch (at least try not to) and try to add positive comments. I would like to see the forum be a more friendly place with players that are committed to having a good time and hopefully playing together. I comment Mecha Militia for her efforts to engage more folks in community game play; like her "Lady's only Nights} and her Saturday afternoon "soiree", which was great fun. We need more of this type of involvement. Since Mecha is on Xbox I am going to try to do something similar on PS4 and hope we can have some fun as a group on that platform, in TF2.

    Lastly for those that keep bring up over and over ad nauseam - get over it this game will never be TF1.
     
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  2. ensc

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    I just want to preface this by saying I know I have probably been viewed as a negative person and one who ONLY talks about TF1, but I just want to give some very recent examples of how that is not all I am about.

    From this thread:
    From another recent thread:
    From another recent thread:
    Contributing to try to make the game better:
    http://www.titanfall-community.com/threads/titan-vs-titan-mode-like-pilot-vs-pilot.8247/

    However, I want to take a moment to make a case for myself (and possibly any others) who may be viewed as negative by some:
    1) This site is called Titanfall Community, not Titanfall 2 Only Community.
    2) TF1 was and still is my absolute favorite video game of all time and there is not another game that is even close.
    3) I did not find or join this forum until probably somewhere between the announcment of TF2 and the tech test.
    4) Considering #2, if I had been here from the start, I probably would have been one of the most positive members you've ever seen.
    5) I care about the franchise. I want TF2 to get better if possible and I would like there to be a TF3 if possible.
    6) It is widely agreed that the majority of the design changes made to the core of the game were to appease and try to attract the traditional FPS crowd.
    7) There were even more drastic changes Respawn wanted to include to appease that crowd that they only removed, kicking and screaming, after the loud outcry during the tech test. (just a reminder: they wanted ALL speeds much slower and there was not going to be an Attrition mode)
    8) It is widely agreed that TF2 shipped with far too few maps.
    9) It is widely agreed that Respawn has not responded with a sense of urgency to improve the health of TF2.

    Even though Respawn provided me with #2, they do not get a free pass for life. If I don't like what they are doing, or not doing, I'm going to let them know it, otherwise they are just going to be able to assume that they can just do whatever they want and get away with it. Those of us who are not happy with #6, #7, #8 and #9, have every right to let them know about it. We are trying to make the game better. It was only because of the outcry about #7 that the game was launched with Attrition and with faster pilot speeds.

    ATrain pretty much nails it right here:
    I also want to address the complaint about negativity and repetition.
    1) As much as some might get tired of hearing the same complaints over and over again, guess what? Complaining about repetition could be viewed as being negative to the person who is trying to make a point.
    2) As much as some might get tired of the negativity, guess what? Complaining about negativity when some people enjoy this site because it allows them to vent is actually being negative about negativity. Complaining about complaining is still complaining.
    3) Though you may have read the same thing 100 times, someone new might never go dig through any of those 100 threads and never see the points that were made. The only conversation they may ever engage in is the one single thread you are talking to them in, so I am not going to assume they are going to go spend hours digging through all of the other 100 posts I did and just hope they find the one that makes the point I would like to make for the topic they are discussing.

    And again for those who don't like repetition, guess what? It bears repeating, because again, ATrain nailed it:
     
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  3. Trini Chinese

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    well said brother , well said . the best things i have read in a long time . cheers . i agree 100% and then some .

    don't ever sway from one's views . with detail . i for one appreciate the effort of all members . and respawn like atrain said the fans need a response a sense of closure . stay or move on .

    you be as repetitive as much as you want brother , i understand and respect it. and with that being said only the truth and honor will shine as many will try but cannot and will not discourage free thought .
    your views have great details and strong views and points with data to back it up and that is always a plus. so cheers and this is what a community is to be like .

    i will go in to battle with you any time brother . cheers. WELL SAID !!!
     
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  4. rainman0211

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  5. ensc

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    Thank you Trini my boy! I really appreciate your kind words. Means a lot coming from you. Would gladly fight along side you in the trenches as well my friend. Thanks!
     
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  6. ThirdGuyver

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    Very well thought out and referenced answer.

    Yes it was me who has done all the complaining about the complaining, which makes me a complainee about being a complainant... Being negative about negativity:) How else am I sposed to mention it?!? As repeated elsewhere my concerns were about the forum, as the changes felt to me. If people think Im complaining about the change in atmosphere, thats tough sh!t. But I'm not going to make it a campaign.

    I know you care about tf , and air your passionate feelings too, which is sound, its the volume of the same stuff which I felt helped towards a negative forum atmosphere, but also recognise you do make positive contributions too.


    We'd probably get on in a real life chat, but written context is easy to get wound up over.

    Yes I love the game too.
    Yes its not finished.
    Has shitloads of issues, agreed.
    Yes Respawn have had some strange ideas. I think they listen in on reddit and not here, Atrain is right, it would be nice to have feedback from them on here. I'd like to ask them for an interview...

    I dont agree on #6, its a subjective opinion.

    It (and tf1) is still better than any other fps out there though. That we may be able to agree on.
     
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  7. ensc

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    Thank you! Very kind of you.

    Yes, I am sure that we would.

    Just a couple of more thoughts to contemplate:

    1) When I complain, I try to only complain about the game itself or Respawn's behavior (what they are doing or not doing). I try not to complain about other members of the forum. I want them to feel free to make their case as I would like to be. Even if I do sense some complaining is aimed in my direction (either directly or in a backhanded way), I try not to retalitate, but instead make a case for myself (and others who might be in the same group as me who are being criticized).
    2) Why is it OK for some to want this community to be the way it used to be (because they don't like how it has changed), but yet it is not OK for others to want Titanfall to be the way it used to be (because they don't like how it has changed)?
     
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  8. ThirdGuyver

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    To point 2, I dont think that question is quite true, I've never said its not ok to want anything, people can want what they like.

    To point 1, This could be an endless cycle of back and forthing. I know it was the game and respawn being complained about, and I know I complained about members complaining, to state the obvious. What else could it have been.

    Retaliating, replying, making a case, it's all the same on forums no matter the writing styles.

    Look, I've made my points previously and dont want to/need to rehash them anymore, my complaints done and my further participation in the forum will purely be to support/argue with/against/welcome etc..

    No hard feelings ensc!
     
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  9. ensc

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    I have no hard feelings either. Also, in making my points or my case, I was not singling you out. I was just making the case and points in general. It's all good.
     
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  10. Trini Chinese

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  11. HalfCutDreamer

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    Come back to it after 3/4 weeks off and there is nothing thats making me want to keep playing it, the new update is just not enough
     
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  12. ensc

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    Yeah, one "new" (old) map and one "new" (old) gun is just not enough. They are only putting resources in creating cosmetics they can make money on now. Very sad. But hey, all this "free" content is great though! Right? Uh, yeah, OK, we're 5 months deep into this game now with a whole whopping 11 maps. No coop mode. No rank system. No challenges. Not one new mode for titans since launch. But hey, "Shut up ensc! We're getting all this free content and Respawn is the awesomest!" OK, go drink some more of the Kool Aid.
     
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  13. Derrame

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    i felt the same at first
    now im enjoying a lot more, maybe because i havent played it for weeks or im getting better,
    but i know, some modes are boring

    i think, we need more maps, lots of them, new weapons, maybe two new titans or new weapons for the titans
    and new modes! a coop mode

    and more context and depth or the war in the frontier
    http://www.titanfall-community.com/threads/context-tipps.8485/

    what bores me is the lack of maps and context, and of course, the camping cowards, or the telestransporting coward robots, using phase shit as soon as they hear shooting