Titan Brawl to be permanent

yes! both great news
i was wondering, why was not relic 24/7 this timr,
i love that map

and titan brawl forever! yes!

i dont understand, this month's dlc is titan brawl permanent or something new?

 

Permanent.

 

Bravo Respawn!!!

That meets 2 big requests I've been seeing people ask for. Titan Brawl is an extremely popular mode and I'm glad you will be making it permanent. And, tracking damage is very important, because some people do A LOT OF WORK and have their kills "stolen" at the end each time. Without showing damage, it looks like they barely contributed. Regardless of kills or assists, Damage is the clearest indicator of who contributed the MOST and did the lion's share of the work. I hope they change the ranking system at the end as well so that the person who did the most damage is the MVP even if they had the least amount of kills. That is the way it should be, because all of the kills everyone else got would not have been possible without all of the damage that person did. It' sort of like opening a tight jar lid. If someone else struggles and struggles and gets it 95% off (even though they don't realize it) and then asks someone else for help. If that second person gets it (removes the last 5% of the already loosened lid), they should not get more credit for opening the lid when the other person did all the work. Some people are busting their butts and leaving titans with loose lids all over the map. Damage is an EXTREMELY CRITICAL STAT in titan modes and I'm glad they are including it.

 

it seems we will get three weapons slots!

 

in relic 24/7 i find only bounty hunt

 

None of this is directed at you Derrame. I know you love the game and I am glad you are enjoying it. I just need to rant a little bit here.

That would be good, but then again, they never should have took the third one away in the first place.

It actually kind of drives me out of my mind how they get credit for putting things back they never should have taken away or putting out "free" content every month when 7-1/2 months after release TF2 is sitting at 13 maps (for titans) when TF1 released with 15 maps that were much larger and more well designed.

It's like, "Look, aren't we awesome? We're giving you a third weapons slot." NO! you never should have taken it away in the first place. "Look, aren't we awesome? We're giving you 'free' content every month?" NO! you still haven't even given us as many maps for titans that we had in the first game at release.

Stockholm Syndrome running rampant. The captives sympathizing with their captors.

What really drives me crazy even more is that I hate when you allow bad precedents to be set. So, now think about it, if you are Respawn, or any other game manufacturer looking at this model that Respawn has done with TF1 and TF2, what are you going to see?

Hmm...with TF1 we had paid DLC, but that meant we had to beef up the release enough to keep people interested so that they would buy the DLC, so we had to spend all this time creating 15 really well designed large maps. Then, since we were charging for the DLC, we had to spend all this time creating 3 new well designed large maps with each DLC. That was a hell of a lot of time and effort to create 24 well designed large maps.

...but, with TF2, we just floated out the promise of "free" DLC, which got everyone excited and allowed us to get away with putting out a release with only 9 small choke-pointed maps with not nearly the attention to detail or engineering that the maps from the first game had. Then, since we don't need to create DLC good enough for people to pay for it, we can put out whatever we want and people will just be happy with whatever scraps we give them. We can just put out 1 more map every 2 months if we want. Heck we can even take a map we already had from another game and slap a new coat of paint on it and not even have to create anything new at all.

I'm sorry, but I don't like the precedent that is being allowed to be set here. I don't think ANY GAME MANUFACTURER should be allowed to sell this "free DLC" bill of goods ever again, UNLESS you are going to clearly define up front exactly what is going to be in the release and exactly what is going to be provided in the "free DLC". We shouldn't allow them to just float that out there and use it to get away with a minimal release and minimal DLC.

THIINK ABOUT IT:

TF1:
release 3/15/14
last DLC 10/22/14 (7 months and 7 days)
24 large well designed maps

TF2:
release 10/28/16
today 6/10/17 (7 months and 13 days)
10 small choke-pointed poorly engineered maps, 3 TF1 maps with new coat of paint

Also, when we hit 10/28/17, the argument can no longer be used that you had to pay for DLC in TF1, because at the 1 year point everyone received it for free.

 

OMG, thanks for that Derrame! I absolutely LOOOOOOVE Rey Skywalker. Have a signed photo of her next to my computer monitor at work. Can't wait for December! She is my favorite character from all of the Star Wars movies. K-2SO is a very close second though. "Congratulations! You are being rescued." (following choke slam)

 

What great news. I can't wait for this dlc !

 

im ok with free dlc, i cant buy dlc's for games currently (long story)

but dlc's must be good, in content as in quality, they are a part of the game, so quality must be respected, the three maps we got, angle city, relic and colony are great, i love those maps, so quality is checked, but quantity.... they could have released 6 instead of 3, we'll see, maybe they release enough

and i dont have tf1, so those maps are new for me, but, what do people think who have played the tf1? they already played in those maps, if bioware adds maps from mass effect 3 mp to andromeda mp, i would not agree,

so, if tf1 players are ok with old maps in tf2, than it's ok, i dont know what they think, as i said, those maps a re great for me
they could add all the maps rom tf1 and i'm happy with that, but i only speak for me

and this

this is specially important, they are improving the game by adding back things they removed or didn't add at release for lack of time,or whatever, im not attacking them, just, try to direct the attention to this, they already had things working correctly, but they changed it, and now they are correnting it, i think it's good that they are correcting it,

they should add regenerating shields and make titans faster, and add more maps, and the navigator's animations like in tf1,and frontier defense of course those are my realistic elements of feedback,
just my opinion and perception, point of view, etc

i hope it's useful for them

 

is she Luke's daughter!? i didn't know that,
that is confusing



anyway, back to topic, no with three weapons gameplay will be soo much better, we can have the prmary weapon, for me the r101, a pistol, and the antititan weapon too!
and not forced to choose between a pistol or antititan,
i think it could be even better to have a shotgun as secondary weapon
primary weapon is an automatic one, r101 for xample, secondary is eva8 and the the archer

 

I'm totally OK with them including the maps from TF1 and yes I think they all should be included. I just have several problems with how they've done it.
1) They never should have unnecessarily changed all of the core functionality of the original game. It worked perfectly and FAR BETTER than it does now in TF2, ESPECIALLY with regard to titans. This was so much wasted time to create inferior mechanics.
2) If they had left it the way it was, all 24 maps from TF1 could have been included on day 1 or anytime you want thereafter and done seamlessly.
3) By unnecessarily changing all of the core functionality, now, in order to add even 1 of the old maps, you've created more unnecessary work to modify an old map that was perfectly fine to fit into the garbage mechanics of this new world and it seems to take about 2 months to do 1 freaking map. To me, this wasted time on top of wasted time.
4) Like I said, I'm OK with them including the TF1 maps, but that should be like a given or a bonus and not an excuse to not work on entirely new creations. I mean, think about it, all maps after the release have been 3 TF1 maps with a new coat of paint and 1 map that was also not a new creation, but was just a mish mash of the "The Gauntlet" training ground. For all 4 maps in this great "free DLC" we have supposedly gotten there has not been even 1 minute of creative design mindpower spent on an entirely new creation. That's just being lazy and cheap with your design resources.

BOTTOM LINE: I love the TF1 maps and they should be there, but not used instead of ACTUAL NEW CREATIONS.

Also, it's pretty sad when the best thing about your Multiplayer are the 3 maps from the version of the game you should have started with in the first place.

I know you are not attacking them Derrame. You are a very nice person. I do have a seriously problem with it though when things were changed unnecessarily. Is it good if they are correcting it? Yes, but it should not be like, "Oh, Respawn is awesome they are making this great improvement by adding a third weapons slot." Instead it should be, "It was a horrible design decision to remove it and it's about time you correct it." You shouldn't get praise for fixing something you yourself broke.

One more note about this, for me, even though they should correct this poor design decision, it is really not going to matter to me anyway, because of another unnecessary poor design decision they made. The only time I ever used my sidearm was when rodeoing a titan, so since they unnecessarily went to the rediculous takes about 4 times to jump on a titan and watch 4 animations to kill the damn thing system, adding this back won't help me any, even though it was a poor design decision that I think should be corrected for those who still like to carry the 3 weapons. Aye, aye aye, just poor design decisions on top of poor design decsions. Frankly, I think Vince should have been handing out pink slips like they were candy during the tech test last summer. I know I would have. Well, actually, if I was in his shoes, as soon as I caught wind of some of these ideas at the end of 2014 or in 2015, those people would not have finished out that day.

Yes, I agree with all of those. ABSOLUTELY!!!