How to report hackers?

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  1. TI sucks

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    What is the official process?
     
  2. ensc

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    I'm not sure, but if it is anything like TF1, the process would pretty much be:
    1) Don't waste your time, because
    2) They aren't going to do anything anyway.

    You shouldn't have to. They should implement an anticheat system such as used in Blizzard's Overwatch that would catch and permanently ban players forever, so that you never even have to deal with the hackers except for maybe part of one game before they catch them.

    See, this is how life should be for a cheater, because they have no respect for the purity of the game or for other players, so there should be no second chances no matter how tricky they think they are:
    http://www.pcgamer.com/overwatch-cheaters-are-having-a-hard-time/
     
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  3. Laddie13

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    That is simply not true. I know for a fact that Abbie Heppe personally went through many videos, because I helped her. The fact of the matter is that maybe one out of ten videos submitted were actually cheaters. First off, Titanfall and probably Titanfall 2 use Fairfight, however if a valid cheater was brought to her attention, Abbie made sure that they were submitted to Fairfight, her efforts resulted in several bans but it was always Respawn's and Fairfight's policy to not publicly acknowledge who was banned.

    As for now, I doubt the new CM is interested in going through tons of videos of suspected cheaters and without the Respawn forums there isn't really an outlet or moderators to help him. I suppose the best way to report cheaters with video evidence is contact someone at the EA run forums for Titanfall.
     
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    OK, well I apologize then, because I believe you if you say you are aware they were doing something.

    However, even if they were doing this as you said they were, this is not the correct way to handle it. Someone who payed $60 to play a game for entertainment value should not have to waste even one second of their time dealing with cheaters or having to do WORK to try to catch cheaters. I'm sure as hell not paying $60 to give myself a part-time job trying to catch cheaters. Respawn should take some of the $millions they've made from TF1 and TF2 and implement a system that catches and bans cheaters automatically. Then, if someone gets banned, it should be there job to prove their innocence. I would much rather have this and even mistakenly get banned and have to prove my innocence than to just have cheaters running wild. The time it would take to prove my innocence would just be dealing with just one person, me (and worth the time, because I know once I'm cleared I'm returning to a cheater-free environement). The other way around, as it exists now, if I want to play in a clean game, I have to invest huge chunks of my time to catch every possible cheater out there. The players deserve to have a clean game and it is totally disrespectful to their customers to not take care of this. Something as Blizzard uses on Overwatch NEEDS to be implemented. Players shouldn't have to waste their time catching and submitting cheaters. And someone such as Abbie or this new CM you are talking about should not have to waste their time reviewing videos.
     
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    #5 Laddie13, Mar 13, 2017
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    I'm not disagreeing entirely with what you are saying, however it is just as damaging if not more for anti-cheat methods to be banning innocent players who can no longer play because Fairfight flagged them as cheaters when they were not. I do disagree with your stance that buyers of a $60 game should not have to submit videos of cheaters. Fairfight works on algorithms, sometimes things change ir needs adjustments and the only way that happens is by Fairfight being alerted to it.

    I get your frustration, I was only commenting on you saying Respawn did nothing with reports from Titanfall 1. Abbie did a lot, and several times had Fairfight ban blatant cheaters that they missed as well as change settings to the algorithms it searched for. My point is, reporting a cheater is a good thing, and can only help the game in the long run, even if it is a burden to the player.

    With that being said, I do not know if Respawn or EA is interested in getting submissions of cheaters for Titanfall 2, or who you would send them to without Abbie being there. However if OP feels he has hard evidence, the EA run Titanfall forums is probably their best place to start.

    I'm also a moderator at /r/Titanfall, the CM posts and updates us frequently there, I'll send a message to see if Respawn still has an email or something that they take submissions about cheaters.
     
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    #6 ensc, Mar 14, 2017
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    It's OK if we disagree and I appreciate your understanding of my frustration. I just think it would be better all around if cheaters were banned automatically by good, solid anticheat software. I disagree that it can be just as damaging, because to me, I would rather know 100% that while I'm in a game everyone is legit. And, in order to have that awesome environment, in my opinion, I would be MORE THAN WILLING to spend whatever time it took to prove my innocence if I got incorrectly banned as a cheater. Because I would only have to spend the time clearing my name ONE TIME (and since I don't cheat, chances are I won't even have to anyway). But even if I did, that time would be more gladly spent to get back into the cheater-free environment. I would much prefer that every day and twice on Sunday as opposed to the other way where legit players have to spend time trying to catch cheaters and reporting them on a constant and ongoing basis.

    Maybe it will make more sense if I use an analogy. I would much rather make sure that ALL criminals are in jail, even if it means throwing a few innocents in with them. Rather than allowing the criminals to just run wild in the streets ALL THE TIME and expect the citizens to have to do all the work to make the case that a criminal is truly a criminal, OVER and OVER and OVER again. By doing it that way, it is like the game developer is forcing the citizen to have to be the police, the detective, the investigator and the prosecuting attorney. That is REDICULOUS!!! The developer should be taking care of ALL OF THAT so that the citizen can just enjoy the game in a crime free environment.
     
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    If you do have captures/videos etc of suspected cheaters, send them to ****************
     
  8. BugZy

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    I just see Titanfall2, beeing infected like any other game.
    Always the same story after a few months, the game becomes cheap
    It costs only a little to be caught, mom buys a new account the next day.

    When browsing the net after hax name, you only get frustrated, haxes are offered professionally and without shame, almost as a regular purchase.
    That way, it's even easier for weak souls to stifle the conscience.

    It's frustrating that game developers seem to only have an eye for the development of new games, they do not see the great army of bit eating termites coming right after and eats the whole pill of the army of fair gamer who happily buys the game expensive and in Hope for fair game.

    I think my criticisms are well founded, have seen much in my time as a gamer, my story is included from the first Pong Game for TV, Arcade, Commodore 64, PS1, 2, 3, 4. etc. and of course PC from the start Until now.

    Hope one day you want to see the danger and game developers join together, do not let the degenerate people destroy the whole concept.

    Hearing gamers say they are tired, there is too much cheating.

    An idea that is also in progress is that game developers intentionally lower prices, so haxes being banned can buy cheap new accounts.
    That way, you earn even more money.
    Have even heard the wild conspiracy theory that some game developers even own second hand sites that offer hax.

    Get the point developers, do not let the fair gamer in the strike, join hands and sue every hax site, or at least make it expensive for those who cheats


    I would like to give more for games if I know they are being used on paid and trained server admins or cheat detectors.

    When you look at what you pay for a single virus and firewall packages for windows that are updated every day when new definitions of viruses are found. Then its strange to me, there are no effective simular solutions to game servers.

    Yup my english is bad,, sorry. i still hope you get the point.

    best regards from a 54 years old gamer of heart
     
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  9. ensc

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    You're English is fine and you are absolutely speaking my language my friend. Thank you for saying all of this and you make some excellent points. Very well said.

    Yes, that is what they are degenerates. They have no respect for the purity of the game or for those who are trying to play it legitimately within the rules. Their mere presence makes everything fake and not worth playing.


    This is why there is only one right way to do it. You have to take the approach that Blizzard did with Overwatch. People could buy a new copy of the game, create a new account, even wipe their computer clean, but sorry, you've proven to be someone who has no respect for the game or others, we know who you are and therefore you have forfeited your right to play the game forever. You deserve no second chances.
    http://www.pcgamer.com/overwatch-cheaters-are-having-a-hard-time/
     
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    I am not well versed on PC hacks being an Xbone player but mods seem to be epidemic in TF2: Permanently stimmed pilots or with permanent radar on, or G2's that have automatic firing as fast as a 201 or R97. The Titans seem to be less often affected. I did see an atlas move as fast as a Ronin non stop once. Am I just imaging some of this? Interestingly most of the time these guys still do not win in their games. LOL
     
  11. BugZy

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    Thank you for your kind words.

    When you see how many are online compared to CSGO.
    Is the amount of gamers small. yet..

    I'm overwatching on csgo. Which also has its shortcomings.
    Here is the number of overwatchers too small in relation to players, more of a weakness is it's voluntary and the price ... ridiculously low ... 10.euro for a new game.

    The day they put the price down on Titanfall 2, the rate of hackers goes up,

    Let the prices of the games remain so it retains its value and is not counted as a 10 euro playground.

    I think most hacker would sit with sweaty hands if you were snatched and had to pay 80 or maybe 100 euros for a new account. It would sort a part of the youngsters away, which is depending on mom or father paying for a new account.

    I would like to pay 120 euros if game developers guaranteed a hacker-free zone.

    A weakness spot: game developers must wake up.
    Closer relationships between fairplay and hardcore clean players... WAKE UP

    Just the rumor of a game without hackers would make a gameplay like titanfall 2 bigger than anything else ..

    Let the price stand high like a microsoft windows until it's replaced with a new one.
     
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  12. ensc

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    That is a really great point and it makes total sense, because cheaters want something for nothing. They want to be able to look like they are a pro without having to do the work to be a pro. So, of course it would only make sense that they would want to play a game without having to pay for it, or at least not pay very much for it.

    Yes, you are right about this, because I really had no interest in Overwatch, but hearing what an awesome outstanding job they did against cheaters makes me actually want to get it just for that reason alone, even if only just to support someone who is doing the right thing and doing things the right way.