Titanfall Please get rid of or nerf the smart pistol

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  1. BurningBalls123

    BurningBalls123 Generation 1

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    I am a Generation 2 player and a good one but the smart pistol mk5 is to OP an auto-lock on pistol needs to be nerfed please it is the most op gun ive ever seen please make it unlockable at level 40 PLEASE ITS TO OP!
     
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  2. iLLcAtTiViSsiMo

    iLLcAtTiViSsiMo Generation 2

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    Totally agree. It has no place in this game or ANY competitive FPS. It contradicts the very nature of what "competitive" represents in the first place...skill versus skill.

    How bout the pilots have some new anti-smart gun locking device in there armor for then next patch. This way it could still be used to farm grunts but pilot kills would require manual aim. Nothing wrong with that. Most of my kill streaks or "in the zone" moments come to an abrupt end from this frikkin gun.

    I understand the devs tried to balance it with the 3 point lock on delay, but it still requires absoulutely NO effort by the user. You dont' even have to aim down sights for crying out loud! Nerf it or scrap it indeed.
     
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  3. Anti-Sprayer

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    Agreed.. I don't necessarily think its OP, but its certainly one of the most ridiculous guns I've ever experienced in a shooter. It literally takes no skill to use, locks on to peoples heads by its self, kills people too fast, and doesnt require aiming(which is the main relevent skill in a...you know...SHOOTING GAME.) Take it out or kill its range and headshot ability. Its ridiculous how it takes forever to kill people with the G2A1(a completely broken gun btw), when people are running around with shotties and smart pistols and essentially one-shotting people without exhibiting even the slightest bit of skill or strategy. But, come to think of it, the entire close range pilot to pilot aspect of this game is broken anyway...when kicking someone to death through a stream of bullets is a common reality in a supposedly skill-based game its hard to take it seriously in the least.
     
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  4. ZJP

    ZJP Generation 4
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  5. Chaz

    Chaz Generation 6
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    @BurningBalls123, please refrain from making multiple posts on the same subject. :)
     
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  6. ZJP

    ZJP Generation 4
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    Do we get to do a victory lap in each thread now that they nerfed the smart pistol? :D
     
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  7. xFMJxDeman

    xFMJxDeman Generation 2

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    Why are there so many "NERF THE SMART PISTOL" threads, the easiest gun to avoid getting killed by, yet I hardly ever see any about the EVA-8?
     
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  8. kbrock1

    kbrock1 Gen10
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    yea eff that stupid EVA. i just booted a dude in the chest, THEN he shot me with it and i died. and SO MANY ONE SHOTS AT CRAZY RANGE
     
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  9. Nate

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    I thought it was op for a while as well. I decide that if I couldn't beat them I would join them. After playing with it for a while I realized it really isn't op at all. You have to be close to the pilot and then it has to lock on in 3 places 3 times. You could have been just as easily killed with any other weapons. The EVA on the other hand... That could use some nerfing.
     
  10. TwinStripeUK

    TwinStripeUK Generation 2

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    Yep - wait until you have to try and get an achievement using it, THEN decide if it's OP. Seriously, trying to get a lock on a pilot in the open or in their field of view is IMPOSSIBLE without binge-eating lead and having your KD drop into minus figures!
     
  11. Kingkat54

    Kingkat54 Generation 7
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    Why not just "nerf" all weapons out of the game then? It makes no sense to me. Some weapons are better with some players than others. I am NOT a sniper in any sense. I erase the burn cards for the sniper rifles, can't use them. BUT the assault rifle and the CAR, I love 'em. I get owned a lot by any Pilot with just about any weapon..........is it the weapon?...or the player?

    I do not see any reason to "nerf" any weapons at tis time. The game is NOT eve a month old and people are calling for massive changes. I say let the game run a while, Respawn knows what it is doing.
     
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  12. BloodShot9001

    BloodShot9001 Generation 3

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    After seeing so many "Smart Pistol Needs Nerf" posts, I feel like there needs to be a separate thread for people to complain about discuss it. XD
     
  13. BallisticDad

    BallisticDad Played the very first FPS! *Duck Hunt*
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    They are not going to get rid of or nerf this gun. Its an iconic part of this game and is involved even at the training levels.
     
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  14. xFMJxDeman

    xFMJxDeman Generation 2

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    I'd say the EVA-8 does need a nerf though. Not a big one, just needs less range, more spread, lower fire rate, something haha. But the Smart Pistol NEVER needed a nerf. Wasn't even that amazing against pilots unless they weren't paying attention, in which case they would have died against any other gun anyway.
     
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  15. flukester

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    I think the EVA is way more used that autopistol. All these pro's out there use it period. I am not a heavy user of autopistol but I still like it even if there are lots using it. I also like the EVA, sort of balances out the autopistol use. I agree with EVA talk where maybe give it less range and more spread.
     
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  16. Tony at Home

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    ... you can't be serious.

    Please tell me you aren't serious.

    But if you are, let's see numbers:

    Fire-rate is around 104 RPM: translation: EVERY gun in the game can fire off enough shots to kill me before my second shot if the first one doesn't drop them.

    Close-range damage bonus drops off after 5 meters.... Full damage drop happens at 16 meters.

    Most guns don't even START to get damage drop until the distance at which the EVA becomes a pea shooter. A standard SMG doesn't even start close range damage drop till 15 meters- at which point the EVA will always get destroyed by it.

    Increased spread?
    If you increase the spread to the Lead Wall type of spread, you nerf the max damage by over 40 points. It goes down so it barely can kill with max damage.

    That's a maximum of 237 damage.

    Meaning in order to 1-shot kill with the shotgun, you need to be SUPER CLOSE (literally, you can't miss more than ONE pellet).
     
  17. xFMJxDeman

    xFMJxDeman Generation 2

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    People can 1-2 shot you from across a mid-range stretch VERY quickly. It's shots are too quick for you to have a chance to do much about it. Like I said it only needs slight tweaking. I never said it's the most OP thing on the face of the planet. But it IS op.
     
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  18. flukester

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    Lower power of EVA and increase spread. It's not that hard. Shooting someone with a shotty who is 200 yards away is kinda lame, especially when it only takes 2 shots. I've been one shot from the EVA from 20+ feet or more away, yep. In deathcam it's usually a chest and below shot too.

    Autopistol mostly kills the bots, so I don't see what the problem really is. What kills me about autopistol is I have powerups that are supposed to increase speed and target acquisition and I still got others with autopistol lining me up faster and killing me. I don't get it but it's likely another ping issue.
     
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  19. Tony at Home

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    #19 Tony at Home, Mar 31, 2014
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    You cannot 1-2 shot people at mid range (15 meters).

    Its statistically impossible for the Eva to do this.

    It is statistically impossible to kill with 2 shots from 200 yards away.

    20 feet is only about 6 meters, so it is possible to get 2 shot killed.

    But the Carbine kills quicker at that distance.

    So does the CAR smg.

    Both those weapons output enough damage given their fire rate to kill quicker than 2 shots from an EVA at any distance past 5 meters.

    Do the math. Number of shots to kill, then rounds per minute.

    At mid range every other gun beats the EVA.
     
  20. xFMJxDeman

    xFMJxDeman Generation 2

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    Well I see it constantly pull off mid range with 2 shots. It's essentially free kills, nearly everyone I know will point it out that it's ridiculous, hell several of my friends are using it for this fact - - PEOPLE notice it's OP even, and because of that use it. Nothing like what the Smart Pistol was, it was very much arguable, but the EVA is noticeably OP. It's not like it's 100% game breaking, but I'd compare it to the Rhino in Crysis 3, it's pretty much just free kills. No one can react to it because of the speed and precision it has, even in mid range the speed makes up for it so much that you really can't react to it well.
     
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